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	<title>Comments on: MacApper Relaunches!</title>
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		<title>By: Teddy Hwang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Project Grow Updates</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2911</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Hwang &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Project Grow Updates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a look in the releases page for a screenshot. You can read about the changes in their MacApper 2.0 release post. The response seems to be mixed with some liking the new design while others [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2715</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about this new template:

http://www.ndesign-studio.com/resources/wp-themes/itheme/

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about this new template:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ndesign-studio.com/resources/wp-themes/itheme/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ndesign-studio.com/resources/wp-themes/itheme/</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://macapper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Nilson</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Nilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually gotten a lot of mixed reactions, so for now, I&#039;ll include wood as an option if not the main option, but there&#039;s definitely a dark grey metal variant. Ajax CSS switching is also more than doable for an instant background change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually gotten a lot of mixed reactions, so for now, I&#8217;ll include wood as an option if not the main option, but there&#8217;s definitely a dark grey metal variant. Ajax CSS switching is also more than doable for an instant background change.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2677</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kyle Nilson
   idk its kinda hard to say because the combinations of birch wood, white, and gray could be numerous soo it would have to be in front of me so i could comment on ....i got an IDEA how about you post a bunch of almost finished site designs on flickr or just take screenshots and let us VOTE up here so that you can really see what we like more then instead changing this layout and risking that it might be worst (i doubt it) but if it turns out worse then itll be better to have this layout. 
   Thanks for listening and pardon me missing all my periods i just like to write run on sentences when it comes to comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kyle Nilson<br />
   idk its kinda hard to say because the combinations of birch wood, white, and gray could be numerous soo it would have to be in front of me so i could comment on &#8230;.i got an IDEA how about you post a bunch of almost finished site designs on flickr or just take screenshots and let us VOTE up here so that you can really see what we like more then instead changing this layout and risking that it might be worst (i doubt it) but if it turns out worse then itll be better to have this layout.<br />
   Thanks for listening and pardon me missing all my periods i just like to write run on sentences when it comes to comments.</p>
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		<title>By: DougH</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>DougH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree! This new design is light years past what was here before. Might be cool if you could allow comments to be deleted if they reached a certain threshhold of neg votes. 

Amazing job guys!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree! This new design is light years past what was here before. Might be cool if you could allow comments to be deleted if they reached a certain threshhold of neg votes. </p>
<p>Amazing job guys!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Smaran</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2660</link>
		<dc:creator>Smaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of the comments above, the new design is ugly and very un-Mac like. The old one was significantly better. This one looks like Buy.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of the comments above, the new design is ugly and very un-Mac like. The old one was significantly better. This one looks like Buy.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Nilson</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2656</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Nilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for the double post:

The current beta I&#039;m working on is made almost entirely out of CSS, so no graphical navigation. Everything is square, simple buttons. I thought shadowknight would be happy about that detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for the double post:</p>
<p>The current beta I&#8217;m working on is made almost entirely out of CSS, so no graphical navigation. Everything is square, simple buttons. I thought shadowknight would be happy about that detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Nilson</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2655</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Nilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay guys. I think I have a good idea of what you hate with the current site and, hopefully, currently have a mix that you&#039;ll appreciate. I do have a tough question, though.

What do you all think about birch wood (the kind at the Apple store) mixed with grey and white?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay guys. I think I have a good idea of what you hate with the current site and, hopefully, currently have a mix that you&#8217;ll appreciate. I do have a tough question, though.</p>
<p>What do you all think about birch wood (the kind at the Apple store) mixed with grey and white?</p>
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		<title>By: Serge</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2635</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this blog and have not had a need to comment until now.  I am in amazement as to why there is so much disapproval over this new design.  Not only am I compelled by the new functionality, it is also 100x more easy to read now - which is why I visit the blog to begin with...

For instance, on hitting the main page I saw via the &#039;hot comment bubble&#039; that this was a hot topic I should check out.  nice visual queue there.  I could also see the star rating for this entry - also useful.  I think what I like best is the comments area - simply awesome work here.

I am starting to really wonder what all of these people are complaining about...not only was the old design a generic looking WordPress template but it was butt ugly, circa 2001, and had zero functionality.  

Good work on the new look guys, don&#039;t change it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this blog and have not had a need to comment until now.  I am in amazement as to why there is so much disapproval over this new design.  Not only am I compelled by the new functionality, it is also 100x more easy to read now &#8211; which is why I visit the blog to begin with&#8230;</p>
<p>For instance, on hitting the main page I saw via the &#8216;hot comment bubble&#8217; that this was a hot topic I should check out.  nice visual queue there.  I could also see the star rating for this entry &#8211; also useful.  I think what I like best is the comments area &#8211; simply awesome work here.</p>
<p>I am starting to really wonder what all of these people are complaining about&#8230;not only was the old design a generic looking WordPress template but it was butt ugly, circa 2001, and had zero functionality.  </p>
<p>Good work on the new look guys, don&#8217;t change it!</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2632</link>
		<dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dudes, i don&#039;t wanna be a pain in the ass, but it looks like crap. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dudes, i don&#8217;t wanna be a pain in the ass, but it looks like crap. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2629</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, heart-breaking as this may be it was SOO much better before!

I used to really like the old site, the new one feels like it&#039;s trying to accomplish too much - that&#039;s what was nice about the old layout - simplicity.

I take it changing back is out of the question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, heart-breaking as this may be it was SOO much better before!</p>
<p>I used to really like the old site, the new one feels like it&#8217;s trying to accomplish too much &#8211; that&#8217;s what was nice about the old layout &#8211; simplicity.</p>
<p>I take it changing back is out of the question?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Winder</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Winder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...... I work for a design company called SquareMint - trust me, they design awesome flash, Ajax, php, html etc pages/wordpress themes.

Some examples of work include www.airfrostdesigns.uk.to and www.airfrostdesigns.uk.to/merrr .

I&#039;m sure I could get an awesome design for this site at a reasonable price...Miles, just email me on tedwinder1(at)gmail(dot)com.


Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;&#8230; I work for a design company called SquareMint &#8211; trust me, they design awesome flash, Ajax, php, html etc pages/wordpress themes.</p>
<p>Some examples of work include <a href="http://www.airfrostdesigns.uk.to" rel="nofollow">http://www.airfrostdesigns.uk.to</a> and <a href="http://www.airfrostdesigns.uk.to/merrr" rel="nofollow">http://www.airfrostdesigns.uk.to/merrr</a> .</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I could get an awesome design for this site at a reasonable price&#8230;Miles, just email me on tedwinder1(at)gmail(dot)com.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2626</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I liked the old version better. The new one just has too much crap. Guess I&#039;m staying in my feed reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I liked the old version better. The new one just has too much crap. Guess I&#8217;m staying in my feed reader.</p>
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		<title>By: KpMoving</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2625</link>
		<dc:creator>KpMoving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the new design is an improvement...Really, when it comes down to it, Content is King, right ? And for Mac users, MacApper has some of the best articles.  Besides, I think over the past month or so, this site has been showing progress and growth, and if you&#039;re hating on progress, go back to playing with your IIGS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the new design is an improvement&#8230;Really, when it comes down to it, Content is King, right ? And for Mac users, MacApper has some of the best articles.  Besides, I think over the past month or so, this site has been showing progress and growth, and if you&#8217;re hating on progress, go back to playing with your IIGS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Nilson</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2620</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Nilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please keep the suggestions coming. I&#039;m taking notes. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep the suggestions coming. I&#8217;m taking notes. <img src='http://macapper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2606</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sorry to say i agree with shadownight on most things,
 now these are my thoughts/ideas:
  1.) i feel the forum is unnecessary unless the macapper staff wants to put up some tutorials on there on just diferent things like how to podcast or do anything.
 2.) rating stories, ok...not necessary but ok.....rating user&#039;s comments lik on Digg.com....no no...why have it?
  3.) Comicbook wordpress layout.....looks different than before its ...ok  but layout before was MUCH better and felt more mac-a-licous and this just feels...kiddish, unprofessional..and it IS TOO CLUSTERED.....i feel every turn i take on this website is filled with stuff i don&#039;t need....before it felt professional, clean, and easier to read...it showed the STORIES and not some other information that is unnecessary
   otherwise i feel its ok but prefer the layout from before and i feel  i actual lead me to the stories the CRUX of the website, the wonderful stories.
 With the old design you don&#039;t need a sign saying made for mac you KNEW it was for macs as soon as you went there.
  Look i dont want to flame i really LOVE this site i refer my friends to come here  and the design ISN&#039;T bad by FAR its DAMN GOOD but the other one was better and easier to read. BUT however the layout turns out to be i will continue to go to this site weekly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sorry to say i agree with shadownight on most things,<br />
 now these are my thoughts/ideas:<br />
  1.) i feel the forum is unnecessary unless the macapper staff wants to put up some tutorials on there on just diferent things like how to podcast or do anything.<br />
 2.) rating stories, ok&#8230;not necessary but ok&#8230;..rating user&#8217;s comments lik on Digg.com&#8230;.no no&#8230;why have it?<br />
  3.) Comicbook wordpress layout&#8230;..looks different than before its &#8230;ok  but layout before was MUCH better and felt more mac-a-licous and this just feels&#8230;kiddish, unprofessional..and it IS TOO CLUSTERED&#8230;..i feel every turn i take on this website is filled with stuff i don&#8217;t need&#8230;.before it felt professional, clean, and easier to read&#8230;it showed the STORIES and not some other information that is unnecessary<br />
   otherwise i feel its ok but prefer the layout from before and i feel  i actual lead me to the stories the CRUX of the website, the wonderful stories.<br />
 With the old design you don&#8217;t need a sign saying made for mac you KNEW it was for macs as soon as you went there.<br />
  Look i dont want to flame i really LOVE this site i refer my friends to come here  and the design ISN&#8217;T bad by FAR its DAMN GOOD but the other one was better and easier to read. BUT however the layout turns out to be i will continue to go to this site weekly.</p>
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		<title>By: John Baker</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2604</link>
		<dc:creator>John Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the details, shadownight. Again, we&#039;re not claiming this new design to be perfect right off the bat, but we&#039;d love to hear more about what you&#039;d all like to see changed. What are some of your favorite blog designs, for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the details, shadownight. Again, we&#8217;re not claiming this new design to be perfect right off the bat, but we&#8217;d love to hear more about what you&#8217;d all like to see changed. What are some of your favorite blog designs, for example?</p>
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		<title>By: shadownight</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2602</link>
		<dc:creator>shadownight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, something I forgot: as other have mentioned, you asked us if we needed a forum. A majority of us said no. Now you have one? Another complex (and uglily designed) unnecessary feature. When people come to blogs, they come to read and react on specific posts, not to discuss in a forum. There are *tons* of forums for that. Combining forum+blog is a recipe to make one of them unpopular. If you&#039;re trying to make MacApper this kind of big hub where everybody spends their free time, I personally think you&#039;re going in the wrong direction. The original appeal of MacApper for me was that it was a) simple (almost minimalist), and b) focused (Mac apps). Adding a forum (and all the unnecessary features) goes directly against those two points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, something I forgot: as other have mentioned, you asked us if we needed a forum. A majority of us said no. Now you have one? Another complex (and uglily designed) unnecessary feature. When people come to blogs, they come to read and react on specific posts, not to discuss in a forum. There are *tons* of forums for that. Combining forum+blog is a recipe to make one of them unpopular. If you&#8217;re trying to make MacApper this kind of big hub where everybody spends their free time, I personally think you&#8217;re going in the wrong direction. The original appeal of MacApper for me was that it was a) simple (almost minimalist), and b) focused (Mac apps). Adding a forum (and all the unnecessary features) goes directly against those two points.</p>
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		<title>By: shadownight</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2601</link>
		<dc:creator>shadownight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, here are my suggestions:
(for a look at the old design, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennwolsey/377244328/ )

1. Layout &amp; colors: the older look felt more integrated and solid due to darker background colors and a header that runs the full length of the page. It focuses the attention to the center of the page where the content is. Now there are wiiiide open spaces with the elements floating around. Not good. All that white space everywhere makes me feel like I&#039;m in a hospital room. Plus, the rounded rectangles for everything are really annoying. Elements that fit together and connect are much better than elements that just float around.

2. The sidebar: the previous sidebar was nice because it was, again, made of a nice color which separated it from the rest of the page, and it was in a good place on the page. Now, there&#039;s this bunch of text that&#039;s stuck to the extreme right of the screen. Not pretty.

3. Nav bar: again, the other nav bar was well integrated into a solid design: it was attached to the top header and there were rectangular buttons for each section. Now there&#039;s this rounded rectangle floating in white hospital space, with just primitive text links, aligned right for no apparent reason, that feel themselves like they&#039;re floating inside this floating nav bar.

4. Unnecessary features: rating a blog comment is stupid. People give their opinions in the comments, if they even have an opinion. Having little stars is distracting. Rating comments is stupid: everyone has their own idea of if a comment is good or not, and no one likes seeing their comment being voted down. Avatars in the comments: they just add visual distraction and complexity, and serve little purpose.

5. Other visual &quot;uglinesses&quot;: that flame on the # of comments? Uh? Same for the big bubbles for the comment numbers: big, cheesy, and cartoonish. That forum badge in the sidebar: little explosion-style &#039;NEW!&#039; tags aren&#039;t hip anymore. Plus, why in the world is the RSS feed attached to the forum badge? It looks cramped and weird. That badge is also not the same width as the rest of the sidebar. The &quot;Share&quot; buttons you added also create visual complexity.

6. What&#039;s up with the cheesy &quot;Built for Mac&quot; tagline? The other one simply described what you guys do, and it was much more relevant.

7. The previous font was much more elegant, and the bigger spacing made it easier to read IMO.

There. We like you content, but you essentially trashed a solid, elegant, and professional-looking design for a cartoonish and amateur one. I kind of liked alej&#039;s comment (Ugh. Gross.), but if you want to know why it&#039;s that, IMO it is because of the reasons above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, here are my suggestions:<br />
(for a look at the old design, see <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennwolsey/377244328/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennwolsey/377244328/</a> )</p>
<p>1. Layout &amp; colors: the older look felt more integrated and solid due to darker background colors and a header that runs the full length of the page. It focuses the attention to the center of the page where the content is. Now there are wiiiide open spaces with the elements floating around. Not good. All that white space everywhere makes me feel like I&#8217;m in a hospital room. Plus, the rounded rectangles for everything are really annoying. Elements that fit together and connect are much better than elements that just float around.</p>
<p>2. The sidebar: the previous sidebar was nice because it was, again, made of a nice color which separated it from the rest of the page, and it was in a good place on the page. Now, there&#8217;s this bunch of text that&#8217;s stuck to the extreme right of the screen. Not pretty.</p>
<p>3. Nav bar: again, the other nav bar was well integrated into a solid design: it was attached to the top header and there were rectangular buttons for each section. Now there&#8217;s this rounded rectangle floating in white hospital space, with just primitive text links, aligned right for no apparent reason, that feel themselves like they&#8217;re floating inside this floating nav bar.</p>
<p>4. Unnecessary features: rating a blog comment is stupid. People give their opinions in the comments, if they even have an opinion. Having little stars is distracting. Rating comments is stupid: everyone has their own idea of if a comment is good or not, and no one likes seeing their comment being voted down. Avatars in the comments: they just add visual distraction and complexity, and serve little purpose.</p>
<p>5. Other visual &#8220;uglinesses&#8221;: that flame on the # of comments? Uh? Same for the big bubbles for the comment numbers: big, cheesy, and cartoonish. That forum badge in the sidebar: little explosion-style &#8216;NEW!&#8217; tags aren&#8217;t hip anymore. Plus, why in the world is the RSS feed attached to the forum badge? It looks cramped and weird. That badge is also not the same width as the rest of the sidebar. The &#8220;Share&#8221; buttons you added also create visual complexity.</p>
<p>6. What&#8217;s up with the cheesy &#8220;Built for Mac&#8221; tagline? The other one simply described what you guys do, and it was much more relevant.</p>
<p>7. The previous font was much more elegant, and the bigger spacing made it easier to read IMO.</p>
<p>There. We like you content, but you essentially trashed a solid, elegant, and professional-looking design for a cartoonish and amateur one. I kind of liked alej&#8217;s comment (Ugh. Gross.), but if you want to know why it&#8217;s that, IMO it is because of the reasons above.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2600</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new design is indeed more sleek and streamlined than the old look, and that&#039;s the problem with it.  With the old design, the viewer was left with the feeling that the unsophisticated motif was done on purpose to create character.  The new design has none of that charm, though.  It screams &#039;this is just another wordpress theme&#039;.

That being said, I&#039;m all for progress.  If the staff here really feels that the redesign is necessary, then continue developing it.  But, if that is the course, then please don&#039;t stop with what we see now.  Break away from the typical &#039;see it everywhere&#039; Wordpress themes.  Try some radically different layouts.  In the age of Web 2.0, don&#039;t have a redesign that is, by definition, Web 1.0.

Lastly, I&#039;ve just gone back and taken a look at the &#039;should there be a forum&#039; poll.  The reader opinions were very heavily weighted towards &#039;no forum is necessary&#039;, yet now there is a forum.  Now, it is of course the choice of the staff, but, the participation of the readers is what makes a great forum community.  If it isn&#039;t going to be feverishly supported by the readers, how can it possibly succeed?  Nothing is as useless as a languishing forum.

Good luck with the redesign.  We, the readers, certainly hope it gets better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new design is indeed more sleek and streamlined than the old look, and that&#8217;s the problem with it.  With the old design, the viewer was left with the feeling that the unsophisticated motif was done on purpose to create character.  The new design has none of that charm, though.  It screams &#8216;this is just another wordpress theme&#8217;.</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;m all for progress.  If the staff here really feels that the redesign is necessary, then continue developing it.  But, if that is the course, then please don&#8217;t stop with what we see now.  Break away from the typical &#8217;see it everywhere&#8217; Wordpress themes.  Try some radically different layouts.  In the age of Web 2.0, don&#8217;t have a redesign that is, by definition, Web 1.0.</p>
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;ve just gone back and taken a look at the &#8217;should there be a forum&#8217; poll.  The reader opinions were very heavily weighted towards &#8216;no forum is necessary&#8217;, yet now there is a forum.  Now, it is of course the choice of the staff, but, the participation of the readers is what makes a great forum community.  If it isn&#8217;t going to be feverishly supported by the readers, how can it possibly succeed?  Nothing is as useless as a languishing forum.</p>
<p>Good luck with the redesign.  We, the readers, certainly hope it gets better.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Evans</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2598</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll work on it guys...It&#039;s a process.  The funny thing is it is not that terribly different from the old one (aside from bg color which I will change asap).  Also it is nearly the same as the old design concerning issues like white space, which I have yet to address.

Anyways, just give us some time, as we are all busy with providing content and streamlining our publishing process as well.  Not to mention my &#039;real life&#039; commitments.  I am making a list of changes from your suggestions so if you have something more intuitive to say besides &#039;it sucks&#039;, I&#039;m all ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll work on it guys&#8230;It&#8217;s a process.  The funny thing is it is not that terribly different from the old one (aside from bg color which I will change asap).  Also it is nearly the same as the old design concerning issues like white space, which I have yet to address.</p>
<p>Anyways, just give us some time, as we are all busy with providing content and streamlining our publishing process as well.  Not to mention my &#8216;real life&#8217; commitments.  I am making a list of changes from your suggestions so if you have something more intuitive to say besides &#8216;it sucks&#8217;, I&#8217;m all ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherb</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2596</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new design looks terrible. I wasn&#039;t a fan of the old one, but this one sucks. It&#039;s way tooooo crowded and too much going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new design looks terrible. I wasn&#8217;t a fan of the old one, but this one sucks. It&#8217;s way tooooo crowded and too much going on.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2595</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok guys - you want some help? here u go.

read this --&gt; http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace

it explains a lot. i think it might help you with some key issues instantly found with this site. 

Lose the new &#039;features&#039; who the hell cares about stars and voting on comments. The site needs to be trimmed down. Lose the crappy graphics. Lose the overly rounded rectangles and the vile wannabe aqua blue gradient. Start afresh - see what else you can come up with.

I think that the all lower case &#039;built for mac&#039; and apple icon squashed in the bottom right of the footer says it all. Erugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok guys &#8211; you want some help? here u go.</p>
<p>read this &#8211;&gt; <a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace" rel="nofollow">http://www.alistapart.com/articles/whitespace</a></p>
<p>it explains a lot. i think it might help you with some key issues instantly found with this site. </p>
<p>Lose the new &#8216;features&#8217; who the hell cares about stars and voting on comments. The site needs to be trimmed down. Lose the crappy graphics. Lose the overly rounded rectangles and the vile wannabe aqua blue gradient. Start afresh &#8211; see what else you can come up with.</p>
<p>I think that the all lower case &#8216;built for mac&#8217; and apple icon squashed in the bottom right of the footer says it all. Erugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Laramee</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2594</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Laramee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefered the old one as well.  The Post/Comment Rating thingy seems to be too much and doesn&#039;t fit really well in the design.  However, the new header looks nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefered the old one as well.  The Post/Comment Rating thingy seems to be too much and doesn&#8217;t fit really well in the design.  However, the new header looks nice!</p>
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		<title>By: Logan Leger</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2592</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan Leger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be straight up... the old design was way better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be straight up&#8230; the old design was way better.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my idea: completely redo the whole site using ONLY mac apps and then post a long explanation of exactly what you used and how (e.g. used pixen to create a favicon, seashore for graphics, nvu for this etc...)

then nobody can piss on you guys for trying!

personally,i really like it. nice workd. looks great in safari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my idea: completely redo the whole site using ONLY mac apps and then post a long explanation of exactly what you used and how (e.g. used pixen to create a favicon, seashore for graphics, nvu for this etc&#8230;)</p>
<p>then nobody can piss on you guys for trying!</p>
<p>personally,i really like it. nice workd. looks great in safari.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Evans</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2587</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tsukari:  I am going to try your suggestion of a darker background color but I have a flight to catch in a few hours here.  As soon as I can I will give that a shot.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tsukari:  I am going to try your suggestion of a darker background color but I have a flight to catch in a few hours here.  As soon as I can I will give that a shot.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Baker</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2586</link>
		<dc:creator>John Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, we totally understand that this design isn&#039;t perfect. Of course, neither was the old one. As has been said many times already, this is a work in progress, and due to some previous engagements we wanted to get it put up before we weren&#039;t able to.

Already we&#039;re tweaking a few things to respond to your opinions, but we really do want to hear more from you guys about what you&#039;d like to see. For those of you that have indicated that you don&#039;t like the new site, what exactly don&#039;t you like? What could we do to make it better? You are the ones keeping us afloat and there would really be no reason for us to continue this if you weren&#039;t reading, so we REALLY DO value your opinion.

Please feel free to give us some detailed feedback and let us know what we could do to make MacApper better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, we totally understand that this design isn&#8217;t perfect. Of course, neither was the old one. As has been said many times already, this is a work in progress, and due to some previous engagements we wanted to get it put up before we weren&#8217;t able to.</p>
<p>Already we&#8217;re tweaking a few things to respond to your opinions, but we really do want to hear more from you guys about what you&#8217;d like to see. For those of you that have indicated that you don&#8217;t like the new site, what exactly don&#8217;t you like? What could we do to make it better? You are the ones keeping us afloat and there would really be no reason for us to continue this if you weren&#8217;t reading, so we REALLY DO value your opinion.</p>
<p>Please feel free to give us some detailed feedback and let us know what we could do to make MacApper better!</p>
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		<title>By: Tsukari</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2583</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsukari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it looks better then before, but apparently I&#039;m wrong judging by the comments and its a miracle that I haven&#039;t already clawed my own eyes out.

I  mean it could probably use a different background to break up the white monotony, but its not that aweful people.  :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it looks better then before, but apparently I&#8217;m wrong judging by the comments and its a miracle that I haven&#8217;t already clawed my own eyes out.</p>
<p>I  mean it could probably use a different background to break up the white monotony, but its not that aweful people.  :/</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Evans</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2007/04/10/macapper-relaunches/comment-page-1/#comment-2582</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked all browsers Scott.  You are likely getting cached images.  I&#039;m in the IRC channel if you need a hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked all browsers Scott.  You are likely getting cached images.  I&#8217;m in the IRC channel if you need a hand.</p>
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