Comments on: Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/ Mac Apps, Reviews, Previews, Interviews, and Giveaways. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:57:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Joseph Whitney http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-154818 Joseph Whitney Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:32:54 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-154818 This is a good web site: http://masters-of-the-void.com/ I am using it to learn This is a good web site:
http://masters-of-the-void.com/

I am using it to learn

]]> By: Randy http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-154569 Randy Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:23:24 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-154569 Thanks for the good info. One minor point: I went to the Kochan web site, referenced here, to get the errata for "Programming in Objective-C," but the links for not only errata but resources, code examples, answers, etc. all appear to dead-end, as if the site is no longer being maintained properly. If someone has a better experience, please post a follow up comment here - I will check back. Also, my own impression of the Kochan book is somewhat less positive - it is not bad by any means, but not great either. For example he will present a topic like bitwise operations without giving the reader any clue whatsoever as to when these operations might be useful with modern processors and in the Cocoa environment. It is not enough to say that the reader should know this already by having a background in C. As with 99 percent of tech books, better editing was needed to help the author out. Thanks for the good info. One minor point: I went to the Kochan web site, referenced here, to get the errata for “Programming in Objective-C,” but the links for not only errata but resources, code examples, answers, etc. all appear to dead-end, as if the site is no longer being maintained properly. If someone has a better experience, please post a follow up comment here – I will check back.

Also, my own impression of the Kochan book is somewhat less positive – it is not bad by any means, but not great either. For example he will present a topic like bitwise operations without giving the reader any clue whatsoever as to when these operations might be useful with modern processors and in the Cocoa environment. It is not enough to say that the reader should know this already by having a background in C. As with 99 percent of tech books, better editing was needed to help the author out.

]]> By: Confluence: Pathfinder Development http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-154477 Confluence: Pathfinder Development Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:12:53 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-154477 <strong>Cocoa and iPhone Development (OS X)...</strong> Project Configuration Creating and sharing an Xcode Project in SVN Xcode & SVN Books We have the following books on PDF ask Noel for latest updates. All of these are from Pragmatic Cocoa Programming: A Quick Start Guide for Developers... Cocoa and iPhone Development (OS X)…

Project Configuration Creating and sharing an Xcode Project in SVN Xcode & SVN Books We have the following books on PDF ask Noel for latest updates. All of these are from Pragmatic Cocoa Programming: A Quick Start Guide for Developers…

]]> By: -= Linkage: 2007.09.17 =- http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-154052 -= Linkage: 2007.09.17 =- Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:37:29 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-154052 [...] read a word from him, but goodbye sir<br/> Woz Beginning Cocoa<br/> Very small Toy OS<br/> -m One Comment, Comment or [...] [...] read a word from him, but goodbye sir<br/> Woz Beginning Cocoa<br/> Very small Toy OS<br/> -m One Comment, Comment or [...]

]]> By: DoPushUps http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-152779 DoPushUps Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:41:40 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-152779 I disagree that the ADC is a one stop shop for resources. I have no previous programming or developing experience. I do admit that the ADC resources will have you making apps and such by copying code supplies to you. This teaches you how to associate objects through Xcode, but not the language behind it. I picked up Kochan's book (Programming in Objective-C) and was able to write from scratch my first basic value calculating file and understand what it meant in just a few hours (well worth the money). As for getting a start in interface building (iPhone SDK), I have started using a screencast series from www.pragprog.com/screencasts. The guy really breaks down the steps to a beginner's level like Kochan does in his book. This has worked great for me so far, try it out. I disagree that the ADC is a one stop shop for resources. I have no previous programming or developing experience. I do admit that the ADC resources will have you making apps and such by copying code supplies to you. This teaches you how to associate objects through Xcode, but not the language behind it. I picked up Kochan’s book (Programming in Objective-C) and was able to write from scratch my first basic value calculating file and understand what it meant in just a few hours (well worth the money). As for getting a start in interface building (iPhone SDK), I have started using a screencast series from http://www.pragprog.com/screencasts. The guy really breaks down the steps to a beginner’s level like Kochan does in his book. This has worked great for me so far, try it out.

]]> By: John Hearn http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-127308 John Hearn Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:42:41 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-127308 I created a list of books for people getting started in OS X development, with my own impressions of each. You can find it on Amazon, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/OS-nbsp-X-nbsp-Development-nbsp-Library-nbsp-Updated/lm/R3KY11QXC8IR38/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I created a list of books for people getting started in OS X development, with my own impressions of each. You can find it on Amazon, here.

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]]> By: megacomputers http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-16962 megacomputers Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:17:15 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-16962 i realy need to learn pragramming can you help? i realy need to learn pragramming can you help?

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]]> By: Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X « Programming News http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-16314 Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X « Programming News Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:05:14 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-16314 [...] read more | digg story [...] [...] read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: sosa0sa.com » Blog Archive » September 29, 2007 Links http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-16057 sosa0sa.com » Blog Archive » September 29, 2007 Links Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:09:33 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-16057 [...] * Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/ [...] [...] * Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/ [...]

]]> By: Melinthropy » Blog Archive » Loco for Cocoa http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-15673 Melinthropy » Blog Archive » Loco for Cocoa Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:03:41 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-15673 [...] I recently came across this article from someone who made the switch, and it seems like a pretty interesting thing to try out! Maybe in [...] [...] I recently came across this article from someone who made the switch, and it seems like a pretty interesting thing to try out! Maybe in [...]

]]> By: devnill http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-15363 devnill Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:29:18 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-15363 I would try a few on-line examples/tutorials using Cocoa Objective-C before buying the books. I would try the links mentioned above. Here's a quick hello world sample. http://macateeny.blogspot.com/2007/08/xcode-helloworld-in-less-than-minute.html I would try a few on-line examples/tutorials using Cocoa Objective-C before buying the books. I would try the links mentioned above. Here’s a quick hello world sample.

http://macateeny.blogspot.com/2007/08/xcode-helloworld-in-less-than-minute.html

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]]> By: Doc Logic http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14720 Doc Logic Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:29:29 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14720 @Scott: LOL I did it again! @Alex: Hey thanks for bringing <a href="http://www.cocoalab.com/" rel="nofollow">BecomeAnXcoder</a> to my attention, I just checked it out and it looks really impressive - wsh I had found this before! I added an update to my article referencing the project ;) @Scott: LOL I did it again!

@Alex: Hey thanks for bringing BecomeAnXcoder to my attention, I just checked it out and it looks really impressive – wsh I had found this before! I added an update to my article referencing the project ;)

]]> By: bmw http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14713 bmw Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:47:44 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14713 Thank you. I’ve been attempting to begin learning Cocoa and I’ve never quite found a good place to start. and me too. Thank you. I’ve been attempting to begin learning Cocoa and I’ve never quite found a good place to start. and me too.

]]> By: Free Nature Photography Wallpaper http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14702 Free Nature Photography Wallpaper Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:33:42 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14702 Will have to try this out!! Will have to try this out!!

]]> By: Alex Clarke http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14700 Alex Clarke Mon, 17 Sep 2007 05:44:26 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14700 Don't forget the free beginner's guide, BecomeAnXcoder, which is available in 5 languages. (Shameless plug). It's quite simple yet covers a lot of the basics, and assumes no prior programming knowledge. 70,000 downloads and counting... You can get it from http://www.cocoalab.com/ Thanks! Don’t forget the free beginner’s guide, BecomeAnXcoder, which is available in 5 languages. (Shameless plug). It’s quite simple yet covers a lot of the basics, and assumes no prior programming knowledge. 70,000 downloads and counting…
You can get it from http://www.cocoalab.com/
Thanks!

]]> By: Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14697 Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:52:49 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14697 [...] Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X [...] [...] Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X [...]

]]> By:   Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X | MacApper by CRACKMAC.COM http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14694   Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X | MacApper by CRACKMAC.COM Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:13:59 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14694 [...] Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X | MacApper A few months back a friend asked me if I wanted to help work on a small application for OS X. He figured because I had a long history of Windows based programming I would have no trouble making the transition to writing apps for Mac. Well he was wrong for obvious reasons and I also found (unlike coding Windows apps) that the journey to bring my skills up to par for Mac, was a greatly rewarding, yet somewhat convoluted experience. [...] [...] Beginners Guide: Programming Cocoa for OS X | MacApper A few months back a friend asked me if I wanted to help work on a small application for OS X. He figured because I had a long history of Windows based programming I would have no trouble making the transition to writing apps for Mac. Well he was wrong for obvious reasons and I also found (unlike coding Windows apps) that the journey to bring my skills up to par for Mac, was a greatly rewarding, yet somewhat convoluted experience. [...]

]]> By: Scott Anguish http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14693 Scott Anguish Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:10:07 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14693 Actually, I'm Scott. Aaron wears the giant cowboy hat. Actually, I’m Scott. Aaron wears the giant cowboy hat.

]]> By: Doc Logic http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14655 Doc Logic Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:20:30 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14655 Wooops...Thanks Aaron, fixed - was late when I typed this up. I still think you're a great teacher ;) Wooops…Thanks Aaron, fixed – was late when I typed this up. I still think you’re a great teacher ;)

]]> By: Scott Anguish http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14646 Scott Anguish Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:59:45 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14646 While I appreciate being called a great teacher, I'm not the author of Aaron's book or coursework. I do now work in the Cocoa and Developer Tools group in the Technical Publications department at Apple. We're striving very hard to make the doc the best it can be. While I appreciate being called a great teacher, I’m not the author of Aaron’s book or coursework.

I do now work in the Cocoa and Developer Tools group in the Technical Publications department at Apple. We’re striving very hard to make the doc the best it can be.

]]> By: theodore http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14622 theodore Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:07:12 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14622 I too would love to learn OBJ-C, Cocoa, applescript etc. IN the grand scheme of things which do you recommend i learn first? I too would love to learn OBJ-C, Cocoa, applescript etc. IN the grand scheme of things which do you recommend i learn first?

]]> By: nathan miller http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/comment-page-1/#comment-14618 nathan miller Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:09:15 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/09/16/guide-programming-cocoa/#comment-14618 Thank you. I've been attempting to begin learning Cocoa and I've never quite found a good place to start. Please make this a series! Thank you. I’ve been attempting to begin learning Cocoa and I’ve never quite found a good place to start. Please make this a series!

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