Comments on: A Cup of Java for the Mac http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/ Mac Apps, Reviews, Previews, Interviews, and Giveaways. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:15:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: idrive http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-163826 idrive Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:18:05 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-163826 Hi Guys, I just found a pretty nice site for unlock / jailbreak/ iphone 3g 3gs and iphone4 jailbreak. www.anysim.net Thank u Anysim Team for fast Support. :) Did everybody now when the update ios 4.3 for iphone4 comes? Hi Guys, I just found a pretty nice site for unlock / jailbreak/ iphone 3g 3gs and iphone4 jailbreak.

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]]> By: Sebastien Arbogast http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-21401 Sebastien Arbogast Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:43:44 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-21401 Some very interesting information concerning Java on Leopard: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2007/tn2196.html Some very interesting information concerning Java on Leopard: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2007/tn2196.html

]]> By: Sebastien http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16940 Sebastien Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:55:08 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16940 Let me complete your statement for the sake of precision. With Java, at least you have a real-world-class application with clean, readable and maintainable code using open and vendor-unlocked technologies. And guess what. It's portable too, so you don't need to compile it for different systems. But let's kill this troll in the egg! My post was about Java, not about RealBasic, Objective-C or any other programming language war of any sort. Let me complete your statement for the sake of precision.
With Java, at least you have a real-world-class application with clean, readable and maintainable code using open and vendor-unlocked technologies. And guess what. It’s portable too, so you don’t need to compile it for different systems.
But let’s kill this troll in the egg!
My post was about Java, not about RealBasic, Objective-C or any other programming language war of any sort.

]]> By: Tonio Loewald http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16912 Tonio Loewald Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:48:36 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16912 If you want to quickly develop solid applications for Mac, Windows, and/or Linux, I'd suggest RealBasic as a strong alternative to Java. By the time you've set your environment variables up for Java, you can have developed a working text editor in RealBasic. And by the time you've configured an IDE, well, you're probably working on your third app. And RB apps effortlessly conform to Apple HI guidelines on Macs, Microsoft guidelines on Windows, and are as good as anything else under Linux. I think Java has its place (on servers, mainly) but just looking at that last link -- With Java you jump through hoops to get a third rate interface. If you want to quickly develop solid applications for Mac, Windows, and/or Linux, I’d suggest RealBasic as a strong alternative to Java. By the time you’ve set your environment variables up for Java, you can have developed a working text editor in RealBasic. And by the time you’ve configured an IDE, well, you’re probably working on your third app.

And RB apps effortlessly conform to Apple HI guidelines on Macs, Microsoft guidelines on Windows, and are as good as anything else under Linux.

I think Java has its place (on servers, mainly) but just looking at that last link — With Java you jump through hoops to get a third rate interface.

]]> By: Sebastien http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16536 Sebastien Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:10:59 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16536 I just found another series of tips and tricks to adapt Java applications to Apple's user interface guidelines and make them feel more native: http://simplericity.com/2007/10/02/1191336060000.html Some tips are already explained in DevDaily's article, others are new. Quite interesting! I just found another series of tips and tricks to adapt Java applications to Apple’s user interface guidelines and make them feel more native: http://simplericity.com/2007/10/02/1191336060000.html

Some tips are already explained in DevDaily’s article, others are new. Quite interesting!

]]> By: Henrik Hartz http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16520 Henrik Hartz Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:26:28 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16520 Well, Qt is actually using native HIView's and HITheme under the hood, so it should merge quite well ;-) Good luck! Well, Qt is actually using native HIView’s and HITheme under the hood, so it should merge quite well ;-) Good luck!

]]> By: Sebastien http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16516 Sebastien Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:05:16 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16516 I've already tried it, I even rediscovered the joy of C++ with Qt a few years ago. Qt is definitely a very interesting alternative to Swing or SWT. I don't know how Qt's look and feel can merge into native MacOSX style, but Qt Jambi is definitely very interesting, especially with mechanisms such as signals and slots. It makes me think of a possible future review... ;o) I’ve already tried it, I even rediscovered the joy of C++ with Qt a few years ago. Qt is definitely a very interesting alternative to Swing or SWT. I don’t know how Qt’s look and feel can merge into native MacOSX style, but Qt Jambi is definitely very interesting, especially with mechanisms such as signals and slots. It makes me think of a possible future review… ;o)

]]> By: Henrik Hartz http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16514 Henrik Hartz Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:34:51 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16514 Hi! Great article! I love Java (i.e. the type that contains caffeine) as well ;-) I work for a company called Trolltech who create a cross-platform programming Framework called Qt. It just happens that we provide this API for Java as well, aptly named Qt Jambi. I think you'll find it is very intuitive, and you might want to check it out if you're looking to investigate other options available for Java development. Hi! Great article! I love Java (i.e. the type that contains caffeine) as well ;-) I work for a company called Trolltech who create a cross-platform programming Framework called Qt. It just happens that we provide this API for Java as well, aptly named Qt Jambi. I think you’ll find it is very intuitive, and you might want to check it out if you’re looking to investigate other options available for Java development.

]]> By: nerg http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16474 nerg Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:54:32 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16474 A very good free text editor id text wrangler from bare bones software http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ A very good free text editor id text wrangler from bare bones software

http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

]]> By: Sebastien http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16446 Sebastien Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:26:56 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16446 That is very interesting. Still in early stage of development and not quite mature enough for day-to-day work but definitely a lot of potential. Thanks a lot for the link. That is very interesting. Still in early stage of development and not quite mature enough for day-to-day work but definitely a lot of potential. Thanks a lot for the link.

]]> By: Jon Kantro http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16374 Jon Kantro Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:09:28 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16374 Have you taken a look at MochaCode. http://syntori.com/mochacode/ It's a complete java IDE with a mac look and feel. Have you taken a look at MochaCode. http://syntori.com/mochacode/ It’s a complete java IDE with a mac look and feel.

]]> By: Magnus Nordlander http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16371 Magnus Nordlander Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:44:38 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16371 At least I have javadoc in /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/ and I haven't knowingly installed anything Java related. As for developer documentation, isn't that installed when you select it in the Xcode installation (I didn't do that, because it takes forever, and very very rarely use Java). As for learning Objective-C, that's pretty easy, if you're used to object oriented programming, it takes a couple of days. However learning Cocoa is an entirely different story. Also, AFAIK, the reason the Java-Cocoa-bridge was deprecated is that very few people used it. Cocoa simply goes better with dynamic languages, like Objective-C. I read somewhere that WebObjects simply wasn't as good after the move to Java because of the lack of categories. At least I have javadoc in /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Commands/ and I haven’t knowingly installed anything Java related.

As for developer documentation, isn’t that installed when you select it in the Xcode installation (I didn’t do that, because it takes forever, and very very rarely use Java).

As for learning Objective-C, that’s pretty easy, if you’re used to object oriented programming, it takes a couple of days. However learning Cocoa is an entirely different story.

Also, AFAIK, the reason the Java-Cocoa-bridge was deprecated is that very few people used it. Cocoa simply goes better with dynamic languages, like Objective-C. I read somewhere that WebObjects simply wasn’t as good after the move to Java because of the lack of categories.

]]> By: Sebastien http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16365 Sebastien Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:25:32 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16365 Are you sure about that? Because I've installed XCode and developer tools on my MacBook Pro and nothing was set up. No JAVA_HOME, no javadoc or java source. Or maybe there's a package with all of that on the web somewhere. Would you have a link? Are you sure about that? Because I’ve installed XCode and developer tools on my MacBook Pro and nothing was set up. No JAVA_HOME, no javadoc or java source. Or maybe there’s a package with all of that on the web somewhere. Would you have a link?

]]> By: Magnus Nordlander http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-16364 Magnus Nordlander Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:20:12 +0000 http://macapper.com/2007/10/01/a-cup-of-java-for-the-mac/#comment-16364 Or you could, like, download Xcode, and skip half of the steps, because Xcode installs everything you need for you. Even if you don't plan to use it as your IDE, it's still the easiest way to get everything you need. Or you could, like, download Xcode, and skip half of the steps, because Xcode installs everything you need for you. Even if you don’t plan to use it as your IDE, it’s still the easiest way to get everything you need.

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