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		<title>By: mikray</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2008/02/05/openoffice-3-to-provide-native-mac-os-x-support/comment-page-1/#comment-164225</link>
		<dc:creator>mikray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pamgraphgung</title>
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		<dc:creator>pamgraphgung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank 4 openoffice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank 4 openoffice</p>
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		<title>By: Kuba Ober</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2008/02/05/openoffice-3-to-provide-native-mac-os-x-support/comment-page-1/#comment-153387</link>
		<dc:creator>Kuba Ober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, technical writing always implied use of LyX. I&#039;ve done my B.Sc. thesis with it ~7 years ago, and then my M.Sc. thesis ~2 years ago. I&#039;ve used it exclusively for all of my homework for about 3 years. It&#039;s a great LaTeX frontent, and runs on all major platforms (Windows, OS X, Unixen). I&#039;ve never had any real problems as far as bibliography is concerned. There are numerous bibliography database editors you can use with LyX, and it integrates pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, technical writing always implied use of LyX. I&#8217;ve done my B.Sc. thesis with it ~7 years ago, and then my M.Sc. thesis ~2 years ago. I&#8217;ve used it exclusively for all of my homework for about 3 years. It&#8217;s a great LaTeX frontent, and runs on all major platforms (Windows, OS X, Unixen). I&#8217;ve never had any real problems as far as bibliography is concerned. There are numerous bibliography database editors you can use with LyX, and it integrates pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah the Misinformer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah the Misinformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pete.
First up, everything for you seems to depend on &quot;round-tripping&quot; back to Word so obviously your processes require you to use Word not OO, a bit harsh to criticise software that isn&#039;t Word for not being Word. 
Secondly, if you&#039;re a technical writer whose documentation needs to be accessible, you should consider .ODF as your standard, not .DOC Microsoft is constantly changing the DOC standards as you have discovered with 2008.

I hope this Mac OO works well, I mean full credit to NeoOffice devs but I never liked that program very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pete.<br />
First up, everything for you seems to depend on &#8220;round-tripping&#8221; back to Word so obviously your processes require you to use Word not OO, a bit harsh to criticise software that isn&#8217;t Word for not being Word.<br />
Secondly, if you&#8217;re a technical writer whose documentation needs to be accessible, you should consider .ODF as your standard, not .DOC Microsoft is constantly changing the DOC standards as you have discovered with 2008.</p>
<p>I hope this Mac OO works well, I mean full credit to NeoOffice devs but I never liked that program very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2008/02/05/openoffice-3-to-provide-native-mac-os-x-support/comment-page-1/#comment-151964</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any sensible person doing technical writing uses LaTex.  Word is a poor substitute, whichever iteration you use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any sensible person doing technical writing uses LaTex.  Word is a poor substitute, whichever iteration you use.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun McDonald</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2008/02/05/openoffice-3-to-provide-native-mac-os-x-support/comment-page-1/#comment-61049</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete: You can insert cross-references to headings: Insert &gt; Crossreference &gt; then select Headings in the left list.

You may be interested to try out the latest development preview, which is a vast improvement on previous builds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete: You can insert cross-references to headings: Insert &gt; Crossreference &gt; then select Headings in the left list.</p>
<p>You may be interested to try out the latest development preview, which is a vast improvement on previous builds.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sticking with NeoOffice for the foreseeable future, from the alpha it looks like OO native has quite a way to go and the last thing I need is a buggy word processor bombing out in the middle of a document. 

It&#039;s going to take a LOT of performance for me to walk away from NeoOffice, it&#039;s been stable and the dev team has been amazing about constant updates and improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sticking with NeoOffice for the foreseeable future, from the alpha it looks like OO native has quite a way to go and the last thing I need is a buggy word processor bombing out in the middle of a document. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to take a LOT of performance for me to walk away from NeoOffice, it&#8217;s been stable and the dev team has been amazing about constant updates and improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: Macintosh Sisters » OpenOffice 3 to Provide Native Mac OS X Support</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macintosh Sisters » OpenOffice 3 to Provide Native Mac OS X Support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any one know what word processor for mac will work well with Turabian?  I have been trying to find on and no luck just yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does any one know what word processor for mac will work well with Turabian?  I have been trying to find on and no luck just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-02-05@kobak pont org</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-02-05@kobak pont org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] OpenOffice 3 to Provide Native Mac OS X Support &#124; MacApper oo.o 3 2Ãƒ¶Ãƒ¶8 masodik feleben, nativan osxre is. Vege a neooffice lassusagnak?! (tags: openoffice oo.o osx aqua macapper) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linkblog for 02-05-08 &#124; Mindful Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkblog for 02-05-08 &#124; Mindful Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MacApper: OpenOffice 3 to Provide Native Mac OS X Support  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Bocic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bocic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments.

Petem, as for the performance, don&#039;t forget it&#039;s an alpha; consequently, it doesn&#039;t work very well in comparison to NeoOffice.

I&#039;m waiting for the beta, I&#039;ll probably post some test results then :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>Petem, as for the performance, don&#8217;t forget it&#8217;s an alpha; consequently, it doesn&#8217;t work very well in comparison to NeoOffice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting for the beta, I&#8217;ll probably post some test results then <img src='http://macapper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d also love to see a performance evaluation (launching apps and opening set numbers of docs etc) between openoffice, office2008 and iwork on older macs and new intel macs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d also love to see a performance evaluation (launching apps and opening set numbers of docs etc) between openoffice, office2008 and iwork on older macs and new intel macs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you&#039;ve clearly tried it, maybe you could comment on its status and stability?  Or how it compares to Neooffice?

Of course, since OO (in any form) still forces you to bookmark headings by hand -- cross referencing headers being something I do *all* the time -- I doubt it&#039;ll be very usable for me.

In fact, I spent the last month trying every combination of Mac word processors and reference managers and was forced, very reluctantly, to fall back on Word 2004.  For lack of an option that supports all the vital features (for technical writing):

1)  Full support for styles.
2)  Round tripping to word format (where both Nisus and Mellel fall down).
3)  Automatic captioning for figures (where Pages falls down) and numbering for sections.
4)  Works with at least one decent reference manager (where Word 2008 falls down -- has its own but if used then it won&#039;t fully round trip with older Word versions).
5)  Easy and fast cross referencing to headers and figures (where OO falls down).

As well as the following &#039;nice-to-have&#039; features:

6)  Either support for outlines or ability to easily move entire sections.  OO and Mellel do this fairly well.
7)  Comments and change tracking.  Pages does this best, along with Word.  OO is capable, but not amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you&#8217;ve clearly tried it, maybe you could comment on its status and stability?  Or how it compares to Neooffice?</p>
<p>Of course, since OO (in any form) still forces you to bookmark headings by hand &#8212; cross referencing headers being something I do *all* the time &#8212; I doubt it&#8217;ll be very usable for me.</p>
<p>In fact, I spent the last month trying every combination of Mac word processors and reference managers and was forced, very reluctantly, to fall back on Word 2004.  For lack of an option that supports all the vital features (for technical writing):</p>
<p>1)  Full support for styles.<br />
2)  Round tripping to word format (where both Nisus and Mellel fall down).<br />
3)  Automatic captioning for figures (where Pages falls down) and numbering for sections.<br />
4)  Works with at least one decent reference manager (where Word 2008 falls down &#8212; has its own but if used then it won&#8217;t fully round trip with older Word versions).<br />
5)  Easy and fast cross referencing to headers and figures (where OO falls down).</p>
<p>As well as the following &#8216;nice-to-have&#8217; features:</p>
<p>6)  Either support for outlines or ability to easily move entire sections.  OO and Mellel do this fairly well.<br />
7)  Comments and change tracking.  Pages does this best, along with Word.  OO is capable, but not amazing.</p>
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