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	<title>Comments on: Cocoa Development Part 1: The Beginning</title>
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		<title>By: idrive</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/03/cocoa-development-part-1-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-163304</link>
		<dc:creator>idrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys, I just found a pretty nice site for unlock / jailbreak/ iphone 3g 3gs and iphone4 jailbreak.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Fields</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/03/cocoa-development-part-1-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-162955</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a hard time getting my foot in the door.  Tried posting on all the different job boards including http://www.iPhoneCareers.com but didnt really have much luck.  Can anyone give me good career advice in iphone / cocoa developement ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a hard time getting my foot in the door.  Tried posting on all the different job boards including <a href="http://www.iPhoneCareers.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iPhoneCareers.com</a> but didnt really have much luck.  Can anyone give me good career advice in iphone / cocoa developement ?</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/03/cocoa-development-part-1-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-159257</link>
		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 05:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, check out the iPhone Development class from Stanford U.  at iTunes university.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, check out the iPhone Development class from Stanford U.  at iTunes university.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/03/cocoa-development-part-1-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-159256</link>
		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 05:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good book recommendations, as I have discovered as well through my own research.   I am a beginner and I purchased the Hillegass Cocoa book and an alternative to the K&amp;R C programming book -  C Programming : A Modern Approach 2nd Edition  by K.N. King.   It is more up to date with the most current implementations of C and is very comprehensive.  It is used in over 200 university programming classes.   I highly recommend it.

There are varying philosophies on how to learn anything,  and I am surprised by many of the avenues suggested.   I must be thick-headed or just plain stupid, but I do not recommend starting right off with Objective C and/or Cocoa  without an understanding of C.    I have some experience in scripting with a C based language and have written many gui based software tools.   Into just the 3rd chapter of the Cocoa book I was lost.  Objective C is very different.   The syntax is different, the workflow is different, and it is a higher level of abstraction than C.   If you do not understand the basic rules, logic, memory management, and abstraction of data that is entailed in C,  you will be hard-pressed to really understand what is going on with Objective C.    

Many instruction books use the tutorial method of teaching, which I like, but that does not provide you with the real understanding of what you are doing.    &quot;Push this button, enter this code, type this command, now compile it.  Congratulations, you have just written an application!  You are a programmer.&quot;  
Most books assume a prior knowledge, and even if they don&#039;t they still speak to you as an engineer, using unfamiliar terms and concepts, and not distilling the abstract down to the most basic common sense ideas.
The K.N. King  C book is an exception.  That is why I recommend it.

Just briefly browsing through the Apple documentation of Cocoa and the associated libraries convinced me that this is a daunting task.   I have chosen to start at the beginning, because I want to really understand what I am doing, not just mimic what I saw in a tutorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good book recommendations, as I have discovered as well through my own research.   I am a beginner and I purchased the Hillegass Cocoa book and an alternative to the K&amp;R C programming book &#8211;  C Programming : A Modern Approach 2nd Edition  by K.N. King.   It is more up to date with the most current implementations of C and is very comprehensive.  It is used in over 200 university programming classes.   I highly recommend it.</p>
<p>There are varying philosophies on how to learn anything,  and I am surprised by many of the avenues suggested.   I must be thick-headed or just plain stupid, but I do not recommend starting right off with Objective C and/or Cocoa  without an understanding of C.    I have some experience in scripting with a C based language and have written many gui based software tools.   Into just the 3rd chapter of the Cocoa book I was lost.  Objective C is very different.   The syntax is different, the workflow is different, and it is a higher level of abstraction than C.   If you do not understand the basic rules, logic, memory management, and abstraction of data that is entailed in C,  you will be hard-pressed to really understand what is going on with Objective C.    </p>
<p>Many instruction books use the tutorial method of teaching, which I like, but that does not provide you with the real understanding of what you are doing.    &#8220;Push this button, enter this code, type this command, now compile it.  Congratulations, you have just written an application!  You are a programmer.&#8221;<br />
Most books assume a prior knowledge, and even if they don&#8217;t they still speak to you as an engineer, using unfamiliar terms and concepts, and not distilling the abstract down to the most basic common sense ideas.<br />
The K.N. King  C book is an exception.  That is why I recommend it.</p>
<p>Just briefly browsing through the Apple documentation of Cocoa and the associated libraries convinced me that this is a daunting task.   I have chosen to start at the beginning, because I want to really understand what I am doing, not just mimic what I saw in a tutorial.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Software LÃ¶sungen - Linksammlung &#171; meinekleineApfelkiste.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: l33t speak</title>
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		<dc:creator>l33t speak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to see more articles like this macapper&#039;s =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see more articles like this macapper&#8217;s =)</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting for beginners (as me!): thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting for beginners (as me!): thanks.</p>
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