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	<title>Comments on: Safari 4 Beta Preview: A New Compass</title>
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		<title>By: car insurance for high risk drivers</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-159024</link>
		<dc:creator>car insurance for high risk drivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Safari 4 is really good browiser! I like to using it, in my option firefox dominate browisers. I am using firefox since 2008 and work perfect. Safari 4 is my 2nd browiser (don&#039;t ask where I using it, lol).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safari 4 is really good browiser! I like to using it, in my option firefox dominate browisers. I am using firefox since 2008 and work perfect. Safari 4 is my 2nd browiser (don&#8217;t ask where I using it, lol).</p>
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		<title>By: nnoidone</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154976</link>
		<dc:creator>nnoidone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 thing I noticed is that Safari 4 beta doesn&#039;t allow me to use Hotmail...clicking on any of the mail icons has no result, so have to use Firefox to access hotmail on the web. I think this was a problem with the beta version os Safari 3, too, but was corrected for final release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 thing I noticed is that Safari 4 beta doesn&#8217;t allow me to use Hotmail&#8230;clicking on any of the mail icons has no result, so have to use Firefox to access hotmail on the web. I think this was a problem with the beta version os Safari 3, too, but was corrected for final release.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Brett</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154460</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found an article about getting returning Safari 4 beta tabs back to normal, but I can&#039;t remember what I type into the url to get into the code?  Help!

Thanks,
Kenny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found an article about getting returning Safari 4 beta tabs back to normal, but I can&#8217;t remember what I type into the url to get into the code?  Help!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Kenny</p>
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		<title>By: Eldon</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154459</link>
		<dc:creator>Eldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got around to testing it now on one of my XP boxes. I&#039;m actually using it at this moment. The interface has improved over Safari 3 and this is definitely the fastest browser out there. It actually feels more like Chrome to me than Safari, which, in my book, is a good thing. 

Having said that, it&#039;s clear to me that Safari will never end up as my primary or secondary browser. That&#039;s because the same stupid tab issue that made me dislike Safari 3 is still there. I close tabs by using the scroll wheel button. Using that method, i only need to click anywhere on the tab and it closes, and i can close tabs at a rate of up to 4 per second. I stopped hunting down those tiny x&#039;s years ago and I&#039;m not about to start that again. ALL the other browsers, including Safari&#039;s Webkit cousin Chrome,  allow me to make use of the scroll wheel button to close tabs, so what&#039;s with Safari? 

There isn&#039;t anything that&#039;s really new about this browser.... the features being promoted as new are just new to Safari. Ultimately, there&#039;s no way that these browser features can ever substitute for the rich working environment that FF enables through its add-ons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got around to testing it now on one of my XP boxes. I&#8217;m actually using it at this moment. The interface has improved over Safari 3 and this is definitely the fastest browser out there. It actually feels more like Chrome to me than Safari, which, in my book, is a good thing. </p>
<p>Having said that, it&#8217;s clear to me that Safari will never end up as my primary or secondary browser. That&#8217;s because the same stupid tab issue that made me dislike Safari 3 is still there. I close tabs by using the scroll wheel button. Using that method, i only need to click anywhere on the tab and it closes, and i can close tabs at a rate of up to 4 per second. I stopped hunting down those tiny x&#8217;s years ago and I&#8217;m not about to start that again. ALL the other browsers, including Safari&#8217;s Webkit cousin Chrome,  allow me to make use of the scroll wheel button to close tabs, so what&#8217;s with Safari? </p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t anything that&#8217;s really new about this browser&#8230;. the features being promoted as new are just new to Safari. Ultimately, there&#8217;s no way that these browser features can ever substitute for the rich working environment that FF enables through its add-ons.</p>
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		<title>By: Tibor</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154456</link>
		<dc:creator>Tibor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you (like me) happen to not like the new tabs, you can revert to the old tabs with a simple terminal command:

&lt;code&gt;defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool NO&lt;/code&gt;

To reverse this command, re-enter it with &quot;YES&quot; at the end instead of &quot;NO&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you (like me) happen to not like the new tabs, you can revert to the old tabs with a simple terminal command:</p>
<p><code>defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool NO</code></p>
<p>To reverse this command, re-enter it with &#8220;YES&#8221; at the end instead of &#8220;NO&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154445</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can drag tabs from window to window in safari 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can drag tabs from window to window in safari 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Craddock</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154436</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Craddock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Douglas: it was compatible since the 25th, through a beta upgrade. Now, there&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.switchersblog.com/2009/02/1password-and-safari-4-beta.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;official upgrade&lt;/a&gt;. Works flawlessly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Douglas: it was compatible since the 25th, through a beta upgrade. Now, there&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.switchersblog.com/2009/02/1password-and-safari-4-beta.html" rel="nofollow">official upgrade</a>. Works flawlessly.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Ficek</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154435</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Ficek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1Password is not compatible with it yet (not surprisingly), so I am going to wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1Password is not compatible with it yet (not surprisingly), so I am going to wait.</p>
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		<title>By: no</title>
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		<dc:creator>no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Safari 4 is just a few treats that Firefox has been doing for ages? I think I&#039;ll stick to firefox, thanks. Not to mention, all the great extensions for firefox are free. And actually work. And the browser doesn&#039;t feel like it&#039;s clunky and outdated. I wanted to use Safari. I wanted to love Safari. It just made me feel like I had two-by-fours strapped to my arms and legs while trying to write my name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Safari 4 is just a few treats that Firefox has been doing for ages? I think I&#8217;ll stick to firefox, thanks. Not to mention, all the great extensions for firefox are free. And actually work. And the browser doesn&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s clunky and outdated. I wanted to use Safari. I wanted to love Safari. It just made me feel like I had two-by-fours strapped to my arms and legs while trying to write my name.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154433</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, dragging tabs has been around for a while. Glad you found it! It&#039;s a great feature. But what&#039;s different in version 4 is that you can now drag a tab from one window to another. Pretty slick. Haha.

I kind of like the tabs, even though I have to get used to the slight change in clicking behavior (drag only on the corners). Everything else is fine, in terms of tabs, plus, as I said, they added a feature.

What I DON&#039;T like about version 4 is the progress indicator. I think it&#039;s completely stupid to get rid of the progress indicator. If they made all the other changes to the location bar (moved the refresh button, added the fraud protection notifier, showed a whirly progress wheel), that would be fine, BUT they should keep the IN-LINE progress bar. That&#039;s my only real complaint about version 4, so far, besides the fact that it cripples my GrowlMail, for now. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, dragging tabs has been around for a while. Glad you found it! It&#8217;s a great feature. But what&#8217;s different in version 4 is that you can now drag a tab from one window to another. Pretty slick. Haha.</p>
<p>I kind of like the tabs, even though I have to get used to the slight change in clicking behavior (drag only on the corners). Everything else is fine, in terms of tabs, plus, as I said, they added a feature.</p>
<p>What I DON&#8217;T like about version 4 is the progress indicator. I think it&#8217;s completely stupid to get rid of the progress indicator. If they made all the other changes to the location bar (moved the refresh button, added the fraud protection notifier, showed a whirly progress wheel), that would be fine, BUT they should keep the IN-LINE progress bar. That&#8217;s my only real complaint about version 4, so far, besides the fact that it cripples my GrowlMail, for now. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Witmer</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154432</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Witmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ben. The post has been corrected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ben. The post has been corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Dobson</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154431</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Dobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragging tabs off windows was there in Safari 3, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragging tabs off windows was there in Safari 3, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Witmer</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154430</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Witmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, I have heard a bunch of people talking about how it isn&#039;t rendering sites correctly but I have not had a single problem, even my bank (USAA) renders correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I have heard a bunch of people talking about how it isn&#8217;t rendering sites correctly but I have not had a single problem, even my bank (USAA) renders correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Cohen</title>
		<link>http://macapper.com/2009/02/25/rdy-safari-4-beta-preview-a-new-compass/comment-page-1/#comment-154426</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’d be careful about installing Safari 4 at this early point - it’s an early beta version and will have some glitches. The installation will remove version 3 without your permission. Version 4, I discovered, does not work on certain web sites (banking sites) and so I had to uninstall it and reinstall version 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d be careful about installing Safari 4 at this early point &#8211; it’s an early beta version and will have some glitches. The installation will remove version 3 without your permission. Version 4, I discovered, does not work on certain web sites (banking sites) and so I had to uninstall it and reinstall version 3.</p>
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