iPod Touch Rumor...

[JohnTheMacGeek]

OK, I've never started a rumor before but I think this one has some legs. As I stated in another thread, no one is going to buy the Touch after 7/11 with the iPhone priced at $199. We all know Apple likes a healthy profit margin. And they definitely don't want iPod sales to dwindle. Apple must have some plans for the Touch. So I'll say it right here, right now ... I think there might be a new iPod Touch in time for Christmas!

[Austen Saltz]

I definitely agree with you.. HOWEVER: the iphone is cheaper for the actual model, but that does not include however much you may pay a month for AT&T and trouble caused for probably switching carrier.

but... i will wait until there is a price drop.... then it's ipod touch for me!!!!:w00t:

[JohnTheMacGeek]

I agree, Austen. But I have to admit I'd love to be able to carry only one device instead of two. Having a phone in one pocket and the Touch in another, plus keys, wallet, loose change, etc., seems a bit annoying. It's a tough call. I'll wait to see how things go until January. Then I'll make a final decision.

But I still think their will be a new Touch, designed more like the iPhone 3G, before Christmas. Another tempting feature I'd love them to add that they didn't add in the 3G is 802.11N. That would push me hard toward the Touch.

[bobtomay]

OK, I've never started a rumor before but I think this one has some legs. As I stated in another thread, no one is going to buy the Touch after 7/11 with the iPhone priced at $199. We all know Apple likes a healthy profit margin. And they definitely don't want iPod sales to dwindle. Apple must have some plans for the Touch. So I'll say it right here, right now ... I think there might be a new iPod Touch in time for Christmas!

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same guy that started some thread called ... ummm .... "Enough Already" (http://macapper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=917)?
:lol:


Oh, that's right ... I forgot ...


he's ...


Confused...


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[JohnTheMacGeek]

Why yes it is! But I haven't heard anything about the Touch. Certainly not 2 months' worth of speculation! And I am hoping for a new Touch w/ 802.11N! :drool:

[MacHeadCase]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same guy that started some thread called "Enough Already" (http://macapper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=917)?
:lol:

Hmm. That's kinda suspect. Maybe he's got a multiple personality disorder... :scared:

[Mark Milian]

iPhones now need to be activated in-store, so there's no more buying at AT&T stores and JailBreaking them.

[Rxx]

Well then just jailbreak it after you take it home then.

[Mark Milian]

Well then just jailbreak it after you take it home then.

As in, there's no just buying iPhones and using them as fatter iPod touches. You MUST sign a two-year contract when you get it at the store. So the iPhone is no longer a direct competitor with the iPod touch, so they can price independently.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

As in, there's no just buying iPhones and using them as fatter iPod touches. You MUST sign a two-year contract when you get it at the store. So the iPhone is no longer a direct competitor with the iPod touch, so they can price independently.That's an interesting point, however, most people view the Touch as an iPhone minus the phone. So, to the majority, if there is a component missing, the price shouldn't be higher. Apple usually does some sort of iPod event in September. This is when I predict a new and cheaper Touch will be announced.

[MacHeadCase]

Well now that you've set yourself up this way, you'll have to report back everything you find on the subject, John. Keep your ears to the ground and all that jazz. You're our very own rumour hunter. :laugh:

[JohnTheMacGeek]

:lol: I didn't have to hunt very long ... it was mine to begin with! It's a wish of mine. OK, I'll be honest, I'm trying to telepathically control Steve's thoughts. I figure if I keep saying it, I'll will it into existence! :lol:

[MacHeadCase]

Ask Steve over for dinner, give him plenty of wine, then he'll spill the beans... ;)

[Tanner31593]

This is the first i'm hearing of any iPhone price drops/iPod touch news!

This, not even a MONTH after we sign an AT&T contract with 5 lines!
It seems like a bad time to sign a contract!
iPhone is cheaper, Verizon/Alltel merging....

Things are gonna be different!
I can't pay a cell phone bill for another 3 years, but I do a lot of the research before my mom signs anything!

(She's liking her BlackBerry Curve, and we are liking our Sony W580i's FYI. AT&T is great too, although we don't have service at our house. We do in the bathroom and some other places though. When we do have service, it's GOOD service, unlike nextel.)

[JohnTheMacGeek]

Tanner, if you got a 1st generation iPhone on May 27th or later, you are eligible to trade it in for the new iPhone.

[Tanner31593]

tanner, If You Got A 1st Generation Iphone On May 27th Or Later, You Are Eligible To Trade It In For The New Iphone.


Lol!!!!!!!!

[Mark Milian]

That's an interesting point, however, most people view the Touch as an iPhone minus the phone. So, to the majority, if there is a component missing, the price shouldn't be higher. Apple usually does some sort of iPod event in September. This is when I predict a new and cheaper Touch will be announced.

The cell phone arena is a whole new ball game. It's like how you can now get phones that play a gigabyte of MP3s for free with a contract. You're not going to find Apple giving away the iPod shuffle for free.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

The cell phone arena is a whole new ball game. It's like how you can now get phones that play a gigabyte of MP3s for free with a contract. You're not going to find Apple giving away the iPod shuffle for free.Well, you may very well be right but, in the interest of my pocketbook, I'm still predicting a new and cheaper Touch in September. (Yes, I'm hoping to will it into existence! :biggrin:)

[MacHeadCase]

Keep your ear to the ground John and be the first in the world to blend together all the rumours. Post them all in here. We wanna know. Who knows? We might ask you to be our very own psychic. :biggrin:

[JohnTheMacGeek]

Keep your ear to the ground John and be the first in the world to blend together all the rumours. Post them all in here. We wanna know. Who knows? We might ask you to be our very own psychic. :biggrin:Hmmm, I may change my avatar to a crystal ball soon!

[MacHeadCase]

Hmmm, I may change my avatar to a crystal ball soon!

That's the spirit!!! :biggrin:

[Mark Milian]

I could see the Touch maybe going 16 GB for $300 and 32 GB for $400.

[iRye]

I thought about this today. I'd have to concur with the general assumption that they aren't competitors any longer - the contract with *insert carrier* is the defining difference.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

Yes, I'm bringing this thread back from the dead! I saw this blog (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/06/25/apple_memo_coaches_employees_on_iphone_3g_launch_q uestions.html) today and this quote jumped out at me.If questioned about the price discrepancy between the iPhone and iPod touch employees are to respond, "iPhone 3G is offered at such a terrific price because, like most cell phones, it requires a 2-year carrier contract."If Apple is so foolish to take this as their official position and they really have no plans to lower the price point and/or release a new version of the iPod Touch, sales will drop like a rock.

[Mark Milian]

Yes, I'm bringing this thread back from the dead! I saw this blog (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/06/25/apple_memo_coaches_employees_on_iphone_3g_launch_q uestions.html) today and this quote jumped out at me.If Apple is so foolish to take this as their official position and they really have no plans to lower the price point and/or release a new version of the iPod Touch, sales will drop like a rock.

No they won't. The iPhone is for people with AT&T. The iPod touch is for people who don't have AT&T but really, really want the iPhone. They know they have you by the balls, and they win either way.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

Most everyone has a cell phone. Some people simply don't want an iPhone. My personal observation is the majority of those who don't want an iPhone simply hate AT&T. (Not that the other carriers are any better...) They will keep their phone and carrier. The touch would be an excellent companion to those who refuse to switch carriers. iPod Touch sales will fall if they don't do something with it.

[Gilajenn]

I'm one of those who didn't want to switch to AT&T. I had them before, and I might go back if it were the last carrier in existence...but probably not even then.

I got a Touch so I could combine at least my PDA and iPod into one unit. I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out with the new app store next month, but for now I"m happy just having my calendar and address book on there. Eventually, I'd love an iPhone to streamline even further, but I'll wait until it's not tied to AT&T and the monthly access fees come down.

[MacHeadCase]

The iPhone here will be an expensive deal (http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-products/iphone_voice_data_packages). Not to mention that Rogers and Rogers-owned Fido for Québec aren't on the love list of too many people.

[Austen Saltz]

I think a great move on Apple's part would be an 8GB, $200 iPod Touch. But then of course that would effect the ipod nano and ipod classic pricing.

and after reading that article I'm losing a bit of hope. It's true, apple really does have us in a tight grip.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

Too true. And, truth be told, I'll probably opt for the Touch either way. But it still seems like they will lose sales on the touch. but they obviously know the business better than I do. I'm still holding out hope, though!

[Mark Milian]

John, you don't seem to understand that the iPhone isn't $200. It's $1600 for two years. The iPod touch has no competition from any other company. If you think the iPod touch is too expensive, what are you gonna do? Buy an iPhone? Apple wins either way.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

I do understand that. Like most adults, I have a phone and understand its costs. And I'll have one whether it's an iPhone or another. So if they don't do something with the touch, what would stop me from buying an iPhone over an iPod? I'll have the monthly payments on a phone either way so that eliminates that argument. It comes down to the cost of the hardware.

[Gilajenn]

It's the extra charges for a data plan that make the iPhone more expensive than, say, a Razr. My current cell plan is around $60/month. If I got an iPhone, it would jump to $90/month. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Jenn

[Mark Milian]

If your options are iPhone or iPod touch, what incentive does Apple have to lower the price of either device? They get your money either way.

[JohnTheMacGeek]

If your options are iPhone or iPod touch, what incentive does Apple have to lower the price of either device? They get your money either way.Very true ... and they will. If you exclude the cost of phone minutes (because most people already pay that every month without iPhones) and figure the price of the 8 gig iPhone plus the required $30/month data plan for two years, it figures out to $919. That is significantly more than the iPod Touch at its current price point. And that isn't including the extra fees and taxes they don't tell you about and you don't see until the first bill rolls around. You have a legitimate argument and Apple could take that position. But I still expect them to give the touch the new look of the new iPhone and lower the price. Either way, I'll purchase one of them.